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PostSubject: Counter -Strike Global Offensive   Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:34 am

Source HLTV.org and dmg-beograd.com

Today we present you official review of CS:GO game , written
by HLTV.org This is amazing walkthrough game which will be maybe next
global expansion.









Source : Martin of HLTV.org

Counter-Strike:
Global Offensive is expanding its beta phase and has seen numerous
updates included recently, so we decided to take a look at how the game
seems to be doing right now.


Early
on there has been a lot of criticism towards the early beta of CS:GO
as players have deemed it too much like Counter-Strike: Source, a game
made only for consoles and so on. The game has now seen its first few
updates and while still in early beta, we're taking a look at it to see
how it is doing.




<blockquote>
Overall feel

If I
said the game resembles CS 1.6 more than CS:S as it is right now I
would be lying, and quite frankly even CS:S feels smoother. It is
however worth noting that the game is still in early beta and just about
everything is still up to be tweaked, modified and changed. Right now
the overall feel of the game is fairly sluggish and you don't feel like
you're in control of your character fully, not the same way you feel
while playing Counter-Strike 1.6 anyways.

</blockquote>
<blockquote>
Granted,
I played some CS:S for comparison's sake as well, and I do feel like
it has been changed a lot and it seems a lot more like 1.6 in
comparison to CS:GO right now and even the movement and guns feel more
accurate. However, that is not to say this game could not develop into
something that could take over competitively, as we have to remember it
is still in very early beta stages in its development.

</blockquote>

<blockquote>




Menus

The
in-game menu for settings up your game, changing binds, crosshair or
volume is really hard and complicated to go through right now and you
can tell it's clearly been made with console players in mind. There is
no quickly going to the options and changing your name or crosshair from
there (and you have to change your name in STEAM Friends to change it,
exactly like in CS:S), as it simply takes too much time.

Same
goes for the buying menu as well which has seen new numbers for each
type of equipment and made buying things much slower, as at least for me
after some time playing the easiest way to buy was still clicking on
icons with my mouse. The buying menu takes over your entire screen,
instead of being small text on the side like the menu you can choose in
CS 1.6.

</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Money system

Valve has finally seeminly just
copied the CS 1.6 money system over to CS:GO's competitive mode,
although the money system, oddly enough, is still ridiculous low in
terms of being able to buy weapons in the casual mode. This means you
still get $1,400 for losing your first round, and if you lose multiple
rounds in a row, you keep getting $500 each time up until you reach
$3,300. Something that definitely needs to be changed is how much money
you get for a kill, as currently killing someone with an SMG nets you
$900 while getting an AWP frag will only get you $50. Average weapons
give you $300. Winning a round nets you $3,250, unless it's with a bomb
explosion, in which case the number is $3,500.

On top of that, one thing that I
feel like should be changed in the competitive mode, is penalizing a
player $3,300 for killing a teammate, as in the competitive setting
losing a teammate is bad enough, there is no need to take money away
from them too. It also still features some odd awards, such as a $300
personal bonus for the defuser/planter (on top of the $800 bonus for
Terrorists when planting the bomb but losing the round), which could
also make defusing the bomb a part of the strategy in order to give the
team's sniper more money.

You also do not have to purchase
bullets in Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, as in CS: Source style
fashion any gun you purchase automatically comes with full amount of
bullets for it. Also, you can pick up all types of nades from the ground
from your fallen teammates or opponents, so only a certain team mate
having a flash for a setup and him dying won't actually ruin the round
entirely, as another player can simply pick it up and use it instead of
him.

</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Movement

Fans
of the CS 1.6 style movement will be disappointed to hear that both
crouch hopping and bunny hopping have been disabled in CS:GO which slows
down the pace of the game quite a bit. The newest update finally makes
it possible to make small and precise movements, as opposed to the
earlier versions where it felt like the smallest amount you could move
was just a chunk, now it feels possible to move precisely. However, the
penalty for jumping or crouching is still a lot and even running seems a
tiny bit slow to me, so overall CS:GO simply doesn't offer the same
kind of fluid movement that exists in CS 1.6.

</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Sounds

Generally
it is hard to tell where sounds are coming from, especially foot step
sounds. They are hard to notice and unreliable, even more so than CS:S.
This is one part of the game that needs to be improved on greatly
should CS:GO ever become a big competitive title, as right now it seems
like sounds add little to nothing to the game. Most of the time you
can only hear an echo, making it harder to tell which direction any
sound is actually originating from.


</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Recoil

The
recoil is still way too strong for practically all weapons and it
feels like controling a spray is simply impossible. Although it has
slowly improved over the updates that have so far been released,
currently the recoil is still too hard to control and gets out of
control really easily even within short distances. Right now it seems
like tapping is almost as hard as well, and the only fully precise way
of shooting down your opponents is simply tapping single bullets very
slowly, which obviously can not stay that way for a version suitable
for competition.


Tracers
are also visible in CS:GO, meaning you can literally see your bullets
flying as you're shooting your opponents, which I'm personally not a
fan of. I've seen the same feature in various single player games and
I'm sure it's yet another feature that has been made with console
players in mind. Hopefully it will be possible to turn it off in the
future with a simple console command, but right now it just seems like
another pointless feature.


</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Wallbanging

[4:25:28] João Mendonça: works on doors at close range
[4:25:35] João Mendonça: and boxes
[4:25:51] João Mendonça: (made of wood or metal)
[4:25:57] João Mendonça: walls = no
Wallbanging works sort of like in CS:S
in CS:GO, as you can spam doors and boxes (both wooden and metal) from
close range. It is also possible to spam the very corners of walls
which makes the game a lot better as you can no longer simply take one
step to the side and save yourself from getting killed, so while not
perfect to most of CS 1.6 fans, it's a step in the right direction.
Personally, regardless of how realistic people think it may or may not
be, I think spamming is a great feature in CS and should not simply be
cut out just like that. It adds a ton of strategy, and let's be real -
shooting someone in their upper torso ten times and them not dying, or
inbetween the eyes once isn't realistic either. And honestly, games do
not need to be realistic.
</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Equipment and weapons

The
game already features a wide variety of guns and more will be added as
the beta gets closer to completion and the actual game rolls out.
Currently featured for pistols are Glock-18, Desert Eagle, Tec-9 (for
Ts) and P2000 (CTs) and for heavy, the Nova shotgun and an M249 (Para).
for SMGs available are PP-Bizon, MP7 and UMP-45. In rifles we have
AK-47 (for Ts), M4A4 (Colt, for CTs), AUG (for CTs), SG 553 (SIG for
Ts), SSG 08 (Scout) and an AWP. Finally, under gear you can purchase a
Defuse kit (CTs only) HE grenade, Flashbang, Smoke grenade, Decoy
grenade and a Molotov cocktail (for Terrorists) or an Incendiary
grenade (for Counter-Terrorists).


The
newest update to the game finally added Defuse kits as items that can
be purchased (though for the hefty price of $400) as opposed to
randomly given to two team members at the beginning of the round. It
also finally separated kevlar vest and kevlar + helmet from each other
as two separate items, so you can purchase just a kevlar for $650 now.


Radar
is very similar to CS:S in the sense that you can see your opponent's
last known location on it, the bomb, defuse kits and your teammates. If
you do get blind, there is no radartype command to make the radar stay
visible. It also looks more like a small map than a pure 1.6 type
radar, as you can see the elements of a map on it graphically as
opposed to just a big green area with dots. Also, the scoreboard
currently covers your entire HUD, so it's impossible to see anything at
all while looking at the new decked out scoreboard that even shows
your and your teammate's money.

</blockquote>

<blockquote>
The
HE grenade is clearly overpowered right now, as a single grenade can
take out a player with 100hp, therefore making nades must buys on pistol
rounds as you can easily score frags without even touching your
opponents with a weapon, thus making HE stacks on save rounds extremely
powerful even against terrorists with armor. There is a chance this is
just a temporary glitch however as they were not as powerful in the
alpha version of the game, but that remains to be seen.


Flashbang
is very similar with the one in CS:S, meaning it makes you deaf,
blinds your entire screen (including radar and crosshair) and once it's
finally wearing off, it'll still be next to impossible to tell what is
going on as your last vision (flashback) before getting blind is sort
of stuck in the eyes of the player, overlapping with the real image of
what you see. You can at least dodge the flashes slightly better than
in CS:S, but they still seem a little too powerful for competitive play
as flash executions should almost guarantee round wins in CS:GO.


Decoy
grenade is a new addition to Counter-Strike and it basically fakes the
sound of whatever weapon you have at the time. For example, as you
hear Terrorists coming out long A on de_dust2, if you're behind the
corner of long, you could throw a decoy grenade in the pit and it would
sound as if you were shooting there, thus likely to fool an opponent.
This also now works two ways, as once people get used to Decoy
grenades, it might also work to throw one right under you, and making
the other team think that is not where you are.


</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Smoke
grenades are like the ones in CS:S as well, so they're very powerful,
much more so than in CS 1.6. A single smoke grenade will cover a large
area of the map and completely block a player's vision. Much like every
other grenade in CS:GO, the physics are exactly like in CS:S, as far
as throwing them goes. It also explodes instantly just like in CS:S and
in CS 1.6, so you can quickly block out entire areas of a map with
just one Smoke grenade.


Molotov
cocktail/Incendiary grenade are the same exact thing, just named
differently as the Counter-Terrorists in real life would not be using a
Molotov cocktail to stop Terrorists. It seems very powerful as you
simply can not run through one if another player throws one into any
specific spot, and is priced at $850. The problem I see with either one,
is that it seems like a grenade that will only make the winning team
win more, as a team that is losing would not spend their money on it,
but it would give an even bigger advantage to the team that is already
up in score, and money.


P-2000
(USP-like but with a 13 bullet magazine) and Glock-18 resemble the
guns they originated from and seem to function quite well. Desert Eagle
might be a little too strong as of right now just like in CS:S, but
it's still at least reasonable. However, I do think the newest
addition, Tec-9 for the Terrorists, is way too overpowered especially
for its $400 price tag. It features a 32 bullet clip, semi automatic
rate of fire and it seems to do quite a bit of damage as well.


</blockquote>

<blockquote>
AWP
and Scout have a really annoying feature when zoomed in and walking,
as the motion blur makes it nearly impossitble to see anything that is
going on in your screen, so clearing areas while zoomed in is extremely
hard in CS:GO. This makes both weapons much more stationary in
comparison to CS 1.6 where you can easily walk into areas zoomed in and
clear spots while going for picks as a Terrorist. Overall both guns act
fairly similar to their earlier counter parts.


AK-47
and M4A4 are also similar to their CS:S versions, although the Colt
does not feature a silencer just yet in the beta. Recoil patterns for
both are still too high, but at least tapping feels better now and if
you can single bullet tap the other team, you're guaranteed to get
kills.


Same
goes for SG-553 and AUG (which were added in the latest update), both
seem fairly similar to their earlier versions and luckily their zoom
feature (which is the same as GALIL's will be once introduced) has not
been tarnished by the motion blur that is sure to appear when moving
with a Scout or an AWP. Recoil patterns feels sligthly worse than with
an AK or a Colt just like in CS 1.6.


</blockquote>

<blockquote>
M249
or Para was also added in the newest update to the game and seems to
have the same features as it always has; 100 bullet magazines, being
able to buy 200 bullets on the side and slightly slower rate of fire
than other rifles.
The
Nova shotgun seems a bit too powerful from close range as you can
simply shoot a guy in their torso once to score a kill. Although it's
surely just Valve's way to try to make the gun more useful, I don't
think it's really necessary for the competitive side of things.


In
SMGs we have MP7 (MP5, for CTs), a PP-Bizon (for Ts) and the UMP-45 for
both teams. All SMGs seem to do fairly little damage but the one that
definitely sticks out is PP-Bizon which comes with a magazine size of 64
bullets, clearly superior to its counter part or the UMP-45. Precision
wise none of the guns are great; they're SMGs after all, but offer
some cheaper options to teams low on money.


In
the earlier version of the game played in the all stars match held at
IEM6 Global Challenge New York and DreamHack Winter the game featured a
wider variety of weapons including GALIL (which now has an AUG-like
zoom function) as well as FAMAS. Most of the old weapons will be added
to the game later on, but simply do not exist yet. This also is the
case for Taser.


</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Maps

The
maps seem to be modified versions of the CS:S maps overall, with
de_inferno and de_dust2 being practically just ported over with very
small modifications, while de_nuke and de_train have seen some changes
made. The original de_dust has also seem some changes, but probably
still won't see much play time in the competitive scene. The annoying
fog that was present in CS:S makes its reappearance in CS:GO as well,
making it impossible to see far away and ruining your FPS in the
process.


Dust
has seen some changes as they have included a new tunnel from the
underpass going up on the Terrorist side of the sniper deck, but the map
still heavily favors the Counter-Terrorists and will undoubtedly be
forgotten just as quickly as it was years ago in CS 1.6. To make matters
worse, the best spawn from the defending team can always push into the
tunnels and get a free pick on the Terrorists trying to enter the
area, or throw an early Incendiary grenade in to slow the map down even
more than before. There is also a helicopter in the CT spawn which
takes off at the beginning of every round, leaving the area full of
dust as a result.


</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Dust2
seems almost like an exact port of its CS:S version including the B
doors that are turned around. Although I haven't played CS:S much, I
can't think of a single difference in the map in comparison to its
Source counter part. It is no longer possible to flash over giant areas
of the map however which is a pleasant update, but other than that the
map still features the cars in the B bomb site, crossing of long, lots
of small objects on top of the A bomb site and in B tunnels, et cetera.


Inferno
would be hard to describe for anyone who has not seen the CS:S version
of it, as the CS:GO map resembles its CS:S version quite a bit. Banana
has seen some changes and you can no longer AWP all the way down from
the B entrance as you'll now have to push towards the old headbox area
to see far down. Small pit no longer exists, the same quick way towards
B from CT spawn arch has been included that is in CS:S and makes
splitting into the B site much easier.


</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Nuke
has seen the backstairs area from outside to the lower bombsite
removed completely, thus rendering outside al ot less useful for
Terrorists which gives the Counter-Terrorists a chance to focus on the
upper bomb site and ramp area that much more. On top of that, the lower
bomb site no longer has the back room nor the short hall way linking
the two areas. Apart from the giant barrels added in the middle of the
site (and the forklift from CS:S), the upper bomb site resembles its CS
1.6 version fairly well. Both the glass door in lower and the squeeky
door can be blasted open with a HE grenade as well. Up until the newest
update vents were exactly like in CS:S where you could simply run
through them,but Valve has changed that now to more 1.6 like where you
have to crouch.


Train's
newest version has seen a lot of the trains removed on both bombsites
(thus making the sites a lot more open), a secondary tower added on the
Counter-Terrorist side of yard as well the bomb train moved to the
area previously known as between five trains. On top of that, it's no
longer possible to go under any of the trains on the map, which removes
a lot of the lurking aspect of the map. Ladders are still on the sides
of the trains as opposed to their ends just like in CS:S, and overall
it doesn't seem like de_train even resembles it's CS 1.6 counter part
anymore, but is rather just a large aim map with small objects here and
there blocking the way.


</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Visual

Visually
the game is pleasing to the eye on 1920x1080 resolution, although the
graphics are not up to date with today's newest game releases. However,
on top of requiring much better hardware to run than CS 1.6 or even
CS:S, it is sometimes extremely hard to notice things around the map.
This makes me wonder if players would eventually simply config their
games out in Quake style fashion in order to make the maps better
playable, as Valve has added a lot of unnecessary little things around
the maps to make them better looking with tiny details.


The
game has a neat feature in the freezetime (which is completely useless
though) where your game has almost all of its saturation taken away
which then comes back as the round actually begins. Although this offers
much more contrast to the colors than normal, it still feels like
CS:GO is a little black and white to me, and doesn't offer as many
different color schemes as CS 1.6. Personally I'm a big fan of
Inferno's and Tuscan's color schemes, and although Tuscan doesn't exist
yet in CS:GO and I can't comment on it, overall CS:GO lacks
saturation.


Motion
blur is another annoying addition although I would hope you can turn
it off fully (or rather, you're allowed to) once/if the game hits real
competition. To me it feels like I'm playing the Need for Speed -series
rather than CS, and it seems like a truly worthless feature for a
computer game. For a console game however, it definitely makes sense.


</blockquote>

<blockquote>
Future

With
both ESEA and ESL already hosting online tournaments for
Counter-Strike: Global Offensive, it seems clear that tournament
organizers hope for players to switch over and it begs the question;
Will CS:GO take over CS 1.6 as the dominant FPS title in today's
eSports? As of right now, even though Valve has so far denied plans of
hosting a tournament such as "The International" for DotA2, it seems
that event organizers are very much interested in the game.


</blockquote>

<blockquote>
On
the flip side of the coin, World Cyber Games recently announced voting
for its games for the 2012 event to be held in China, and while CS 1.6
has been listed as a potential candidate, both CS:S and CS:GO are
missing from the list. It's definitely too early to say for sure, but if
CS:GO managess to get in a lot of new players as expected, chances are
high that tournament organizers will at least try to have it take over
CS 1.6 just like with CS:S back in the days, but whether or not it
will be successful remains to be seen.


</blockquote>

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PostSubject: Re: Counter -Strike Global Offensive   Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:17 am

I wonder how much will cost this...
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PostSubject: Re: Counter -Strike Global Offensive   Mon Mar 05, 2012 8:12 am

50euro for the old game with new graphics Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Counter -Strike Global Offensive   Mon Mar 05, 2012 9:05 pm

goferzo wrote:
50euro for the old game with new graphics Smile
I am personally not a fan of it, i use to be but that "old" game got millions of players still and that game is still on all big tournaments from WCG, ESL, etc...

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PostSubject: Re: Counter -Strike Global Offensive   Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:57 am

I never said its bad - but millions of players still play version 1.6, newer Source has less players than 1.6, and this new game is just milking money out of a 'Counter Strike' name. I doubt it will be more popular than CS:S, never mind the 1.6 version.
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PostSubject: Re: Counter -Strike Global Offensive   Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:18 am

Same was told for 1.5 version when 1.6 came out and after a year all transfered, if game is worth of it is gonna have players and the way graphics look like and maps are almost the same just much better graphics i am sure it will have this possible transfer. As for CS Source graphic is barely better then cs 1.6 and for sure cannot be compared to Global Offensive.

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PostSubject: Re: Counter -Strike Global Offensive   Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:22 am

I dont think valve is going to make the same mistake twice, they fucked it up with source with a community split
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PostSubject: Re: Counter -Strike Global Offensive   Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:20 am

Source is crap compared to even CS 1.6 and this new CS looks amazing and is by far better graphics.

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